generor test 11 engine running on hho


another video up, and more to come once I start to compile them. All the following tests were done with the same cell setup, 2 cells at 36 plates 6"x6", 3/8 hose ran from cell to res, from res to dryer #1, to dryer #2 at engine, and only the last 2" of tube was reduced to 1/4 tubing, the torch was using a .025 mig tip.Rough synopsis:

1st test setup, removed all metering jets from gasoline carb, routed hho into normal gasoline input, routed crank case vent to manifold vacuum. covered carb intake. The carb intake was allowing hho to escape, and too much air in which leaned out the hho mix. The amount of injected hho could only handle the amount of air coming in from the crank case. If I had more hho I would have had to open the carb up at higher rpm. Running hho through the carb worked but not great, it was too leaky and too restrictive to flow much.
PROBLEMS: hho back filled the crank case, which would be fine if you allows turn the engine spark off and purged the system before starting it. I didn't once and the hho in crank case was set off from a lean condition. Luckily I was wearing my body armor otherwise I would have a pretty good mark on my side. The oil filler cap was shot out deflecting offmy side, and went 60' across the street.
RECOMMENDATIONS: don't try this, a crank vent is good, but a pcv valve should be used, and a sealed carb with a crank case connection should not be used.

2ND test setup,
Hho injected into intake manifold, crank case open air vented, synopsis: undecided fromthis test, ssc's test was very successful though.
Problems: manifold vacuum collapsed hho tube
Recommendations, this test still needs to be done successfully to collaborate with ssc, but a rigid tube needs to be used to keep from vacuum collapsing it.

3RD test setup,
hho injeccted with torch, torch was placed in a 2' long 3/4" dia. copper tube to keep torch flame from hitting carb in event of backfiretube was pushed into carb as sealed as possible, fair seal 95%. Crank case vented to intake manifold.Engine didn't run.
Problems, it seems that the long tube didn't draft enough hho into the engine.
Recommendations, not to use this method.

4TH test setup
hho injected into carb with torch, crank case vented intake intake manifold. The specific direction the torch was placed made a large difference, if I directed the torch to the tiny crack of the throttle butterfly, the engine ran fine, ifthe torch was directed any other place(ie to center of butterfly, to axle point of butterfly, etc.) it did not run well if at all. with this setup the engine ran for approx. 3-3.5 hrs, from 13amp down to 9.5amps at 115v ac (retified to dc approx. dc volts 146) the only reason the engine stopped running is I ran out of water in the cell to keep the production up. The cell was about 160* and it produced a huge amount of steam, that steam was a good percentage of the total volume coming from the cell (maybe up to 1/3) the temp of the hho expanded the gas into a much less dense version of itself,which means I was not injecting very much pure hho. After a few hours the tubing condensed the steam into water in the tubing, and was passing liquid water into the engine, this did not seem to effect the engine at the amounts that was going into it, ie it did not stumble when water went in. Therewas a puddle below the carb at about 2-2.5 hrs into the test. exhaust was cool, so much so I could put my finger into the tail pipe without discomfort. Engine temp is on videos that are soon to be posted. Rpm is unknown right now, but approx. from a fair tuned ear, 1200 at 13 amps, down to very lowmaybe 400 at 9.5 amps, very very very low idle is possible with hho. Inspected spark plug, it was dry and very clean, a nice golden color to it. no real evidence of carbon.
Problems, possiblity of torching your carb if a backfire ignites the torch, I did it last week almost cut the choke butterfly in half before I got to it (3-4 seconds)
Recommendations, for observed testing this is a good method for running engines, its simple and it works very well. with no mods to engine needed.







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Uploaded: August 27, 2008 at 5:31 pm
Author: d3adp001

Length: 00:09:18
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d3adp001 (November 12, 2008 at 3:00 am)
tests are on going, no one to my knowledge has answered that question, prelim data is complied, so for short, we're working on it.
drasticcactus (November 7, 2008 at 9:29 pm)
how much Kilowattage can a HHO generator like this generate? has anyone dyno'd an HHO setup and see how much work is actually done?
jdhattonelectric (October 30, 2008 at 1:46 am)
So you running your hho through a carb, is this right?I removed my float and needle valve then ran it direct, The air intake supplied enough air that the engine ran very smooth.I'd like to chat with you further on your generator and storage system. Could we compare?
minde4000 (September 4, 2008 at 4:57 am)
Ya, that made me laugh there for a minute too lol. Great job d3adp001. Keep it up EBN
d3adp001 (August 28, 2008 at 5:24 am)
well it was drawing between 12.5-16 amps at 115v ac, and that was rectified to 146-155v dc to the cells, but yes wattage is about right. And we can't give up the end of the story quite yet, the goal is to see how far we can take this, running the cell off the genny would be great, but its really not needed to get a certain mathematical point across. We will close a loop in a sense, but not that one. well at least we don't think so
d3adp001 (August 28, 2008 at 5:19 am)
I am
d3adp001 (August 28, 2008 at 5:19 am)
I didn't chase it, that would imply I was running, it was more of a projectile motion study, calc the angle velocity, flight time etc, and locate it, after of course taking into consideration its loss of energy off the kevlar. :) At least i can put mine back together with no new parts, rofl
smudoshi (August 28, 2008 at 5:08 am)
EBN... excellent work! I have a question though, I heard D3 saying that his two cells were pulling 1150 watts at 140V to produce 5-7 lpm of HHO. I also saw in a previous video a setup where D3 was going to test a load on the generator. What exactly is the holy grail you guys are searching for? Is it to close the loop so to speak? I mean are you hoping to get the generator to power the HHO production so that it is essentially creating its own fuel?
SmartScarecrow (August 28, 2008 at 4:02 am)
ok, ok ... so yours still has a muffler and mine dont ... what's your point ??? LOL ...yeah, I let a little hydroxy build up in my exhaust system and it blew the baffle right outta the muffler ...

but at least I did not have to chase down my oil filler cap !!!
vancecook7 (August 28, 2008 at 3:55 am)
You two are funny. :)
dreamyear (August 28, 2008 at 3:28 am)
mix air with hho...this will slow down the burn rate
d3adp001 (August 28, 2008 at 1:52 am)
I turn the engine spark off to purge the hho from the intake manifold and to get the air moving, this prevents the engine from exploding, after it turns over for a while I turn the spark on, it also clears the muffler, right ssc :P
d3adp001 (August 28, 2008 at 1:48 am)
I am using half the cell surface area, so there
SmartScarecrow (August 27, 2008 at 11:04 pm)
hey D3, we maybe better pick up the pace a bit ... a German fellow has gotten into the game ...its an international competition now ... I aint gonna let that German beat me without putting up a fight !!!

watch?v=N7U1xVQRd24
SmartScarecrow (August 27, 2008 at 10:36 pm)
one step closer ... but not running at full speed yet ... so you aint caught up, let alone kicked my butt ...think you might be falling behind out there on the left coast ... you need me to use my frequent flyer miles to come out there and give you hand ???

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