Suicide Barrier on the Golden Gate Bridge Reconsidered


I am flexible. I made a video called "Suicide on the Golden Gate Bridge." Seen here:http://...

A considerable number of people had a comment to make on this video. One actually convinced me to change my position on the issue slightly.

A user by the name of warmcozy ultimately made the argument "people before things." That struck a note of truth with me and made me realize I had lost sight of the bigger picture.

This is simply an illustration that I am not inflexible. I am open minded and willing to change my position. I don't post here because I think I have all the answers. I don't post thinking that I know everything about the topic I amdiscussing. I post here to learn more... to start the discussion.

I enjoy pleasant discourse, especially for differing points of view. You can save the insults, however, those are a waste of your time and mine. Anyway, the people who write the baseless insults generally don't read the descriptionbox because they are not actually seeking better understanding. I think the main reason for baseless insults is a self esteem issue. People who have low self esteem go around trying to knock other people down to bring them to their own level. It is sad really.

Anyway, I would like to point out thatalthough I am now agreeing to a barrier on the Golden Gate Bridge with the condition that it doesn't obscure the view, I am now saying that it will specifically save lives.

I still believe that people who want to kill themselves will do so, they just might have to find a different method.

After the comments on the Golden Gate Bridge Suicide video I do, however, think that it might be worth the barrier if nothing else, to remove the tarnish from the reputation of this beautiful bridge located in an amazing place in the world.

Anyway, you can watch the video if you really want all the details. Don't let this ruin the Golden Gate Bridge for you, it really is a beautiful place with an amazing view.

Thanks for reading. Read all you want, I'll write more.

-Chris Corsello (NorCalCorsello)
September 2008







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Uploaded: September 27, 2008 at 6:16 pm
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normank27 (November 24, 2008 at 12:38 am)
so are they going to build a barrier or is it still being tossed around? i watched your other video too and I think they should let people jump.
normank27 (November 24, 2008 at 12:36 am)
i watched the bridge documentry and enjoyed it. Are their others out there??
WeThePeopleRleaders (November 22, 2008 at 10:38 pm)
why do you care? besides you made good points. ..............nvm.
KillTheUnderdog (October 25, 2008 at 7:22 pm)
ok, so you're not a total d-bag after all :), that's a good thing.I still take issue with some of your rhetoric however, namely repeating "people that want to kill themselves." Most people who are suicidal don't want to kill themselves it's just that they want to escape from or solve their problems and they see suicide as the only avenue.

I know this doesn't have much to do with the barrier proposal, but just something to think about I suppose.
NorCalCorsello (October 23, 2008 at 6:52 pm)
Thanks for watching this one too. This is really one of the main reasons I do YouTube videos, it helps give me a wider view, keeps me in check, reminds me when I get too far off base. I do get so caught up sometimes, I lose sight of what is really important.
kaking211 (October 23, 2008 at 12:17 pm)
Hi Chris: I had responded to your other GG bridge video by saying people can never have too much empathy for others, but they can have too little. Your new position, "people before things," is exactly what I had in mind. Thanks for alerting me to this video response. I enjoyed watching it and listening to you describe how your thoughts had changed. Best, Karen
Mymieke (October 19, 2008 at 5:22 pm)
I agree with you totally
97TSupra (October 8, 2008 at 6:03 pm)
I'm sorry if my last comment on your other video offended you but I sincerely understand your point the bridge has a great view that need not be ruined although a net would not ruin the view and save the lives and I'm all about saving lives even if they kill themselves by other means atleast we tried like basically every other bridge that has had a suicide rate in the past but yeah I appriciate your maturity and your ability to see things in a new way sorry this post is shitty im really tiredlol
moosedog2007 (October 2, 2008 at 9:46 pm)
Chris, I'm the one who told you about those interviews, to which you responded by saying you didn't care what they said. Now you're quoting me and asking if I know what I've told you?Nonetheless, I'm taking issue with 1:00-1:15 of your 1st video, and 3:34-3:50 of this one. But now you're saying that some of them might not have killed themselves if the GGB was not an option and you offered 5 possible reasons as to why that may be. Are you recanting what you said in your videos?
NorCalCorsello (October 2, 2008 at 9:02 am)
I did not intend for it to sound like I was suggesting that you weren't being civil and intelligent... I just wanted clarification on what detail exactly we are arguing about. Did you know 4 of 6 GGB jump survivors said that it was their *only* chosen method, GGB or nothing. I'm guessing the reason is because it is easy, quick, leaves no mess, nearly certain, and a beautiful place to bid the world farewell. So, what's your deal? Why is this so important to you? Friend or Family member jump?
moosedog2007 (October 1, 2008 at 10:41 pm)
I'm sorry if you think I'm not being civil or intelligent, but I'm not telling you to STFU, calling you a daft american, or making vacuous comments about your hair. I feel that I have clearly stated and restated my argument several times. I don't care about the barrier. It's a dead issue with me. I'm interested in why the GGB is currently the most popular place in the world to commit suicide, and why some of them would not have killed themselves any other way.Thoughts? Or just more strawmen?
NorCalCorsello (October 1, 2008 at 5:30 pm)
I didn't realize I was talking about your comments, but I guess you thought I might have been applying them to your argument. I already agreed to adding the barrier. So clarify for me, what is it you are arguing? Are you claiming that there is something so inexplicably attractive about suicide on the Golden Gate Bridge that some people can't resist its alluring suicidal power? Seriously. Restate your argument clearly and concisely and we will discuss it in a civil and intelligent manner.
moosedog2007 (October 1, 2008 at 11:49 am)
Chris, it seems that you continue to miss the point, despite my using phrases such as "lover's leap" and "romanticism". Also, I never suggested they might have a plan B - that was YOUR contribution that you dismantled (ie, a strawman fallacy). I said nothing about an epiphany after a failed attempt, either. For at least some of the jumpers, there was to be no other way. Only the GGB. That means that if the GGB was not available, they would not find another method. No "plan B".Capisce?
NorCalCorsello (September 28, 2008 at 4:23 am)
No, my name is Chris. NorCal is where I live. People who live in Northern California call it that. We like to make the distinction between ourselves and Southern California. Hollywood, Los Angeles, Orange County... they don't represent us.
mattbooth15 (September 27, 2008 at 7:22 pm)
and btw is your first name norcal? thats just somehtin thats been bothering me

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